Teen tyrant David Hogg gets schooled by Kyle Kashuv after false claims about guns, gun violence

Joe NewbyMay 18, 2018

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On Friday, David Hogg, the foul-mouthed anti-gun teen demagogue dubbed the “king of the snowflakes,” responded to the school shooting in Texas with a ridiculous claim on Twitter about firearms in the United States and got schooled by quite a few people, including fellow student Kyle Kashuv.

“You know if guns actually did make everyone safe America would have no gun violance (sic) because we have about 100 million guns or about 30% of the worlds total yet most of its gun violance, (sic)” he claimed in a poorly worded tweet in which he repeatedly misspelled “violence.”

You know if guns actually did make everyone safe America would have no gun violance because we have about 100 million guns or about 30% of the worlds total yet most of its gun violance.

— David Hogg (@davidhogg111) May 18, 2018

Response was pretty much what one might expect:

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“Without guns there would be no America to keep safe,” Kashuv informed Hogg.

Without guns there would be no America to keep safe.

— Kyle Kashuv (@KyleKashuv) May 18, 2018

He wasn’t finished and later asked Hogg: “Is there a way to get you to stop lying?”

He also provided Hogg with actual statistics that completely shreds his false claim.

Is there a way to get you to stop lying? https://t.co/DuRW9wFV3t

— Kyle Kashuv (@KyleKashuv) May 18, 2018

One person told Kashuv:

I'd be happy if he could just spell "violence" right.

— Matt Kleinholz (@mkleinholzASU) May 18, 2018

Another actually offered to proofread Hogg’s tweets:

https://twitter.com/ernattc/status/997597259159298049

There are, of course, two big problems with what Hogg posted.

First, there are about three times as many guns in the United States as he claimed. According to a 2013 Pew Research article:

There are by various estimates anywhere from 270 million to 310 million guns in the United States — close to one firearm for every man, woman and child. But in point of fact, only a minority of Americans own guns.

Gun ownership is one of the hardest things for researchers to pin down (as the Pew Research Center’s Michael Dimock, among others, discusses here). A Pew Research Center survey conducted in February found that 37% of households had an adult who owned a gun — 24% said they owned a gun, and 13% said someone else in their household did.

That’s a far cry from the 100 million Hogg claimed.

Second, as NPR noted:

To be sure, there are quite a few countries where gun violence is a substantially larger problem than in the United States — particularly in Central America and the Caribbean. (Ali) Mokdad says a major driver is the large presence of gangs and drug trafficking. “The gangs and drug traffickers fight amongst themselves to get more territory, and they fight the police,” says Mokdad. And citizens who are not involved are often caught in the crossfire.

The article notes the United States falls fall short of the top ten list of countries with the highest gun murder rates.

Of course, if Hogg had spent, say, five minutes on Google, he might have seen the report.

But “if,” as the saying goes, can be a mighty big word…

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