Video: Baier Gives Mark Levin Great Post-Game Analysis Of The Kamala Interview — (Full Transcript)

Everyone else is giving THEIR analysis... here's what Bret himself saw

Wes WalkerOctober 17, 2024

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Anyone can give an armchair analysis of a TV appearance after the fact — but how often do you get to hear the interviewer himself give his OWN ‘post-game analysis’?

At 6 pm Wednesday, Bret Baier’s Fox News interview with Kamala Harris hit the airwaves. Maybe a minute later the internet was already awash with ‘expert’ opinions.

Leftwing media marches out with inexplicably uniform talking points…

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Meanwhile, the Trump team had quite a different opinion on how it went, posting the entire interview with an interesting caption:

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But most of us haven’t heard what Bret himself had to say about the interview.

Bret gives some insightful context to understanding what he thought was REALLY going on in the interview.

First, in a sixty-second recap after the interview, Bret pulled back the curtain on the behind-the-scenes details.

HOLY SMOKES. Bret Baier just called out Kamala's campaign for pulling last minute stunts to shorten the interview and delay its air time.

"We were supposed to start at 5… We were going to do 25/30 mins… they said maybe 20. She came in around 5:15" pic.twitter.com/lTLGvCzgDY

— johnny maga (@_johnnymaga) October 16, 2024

He called Mark Levin’s radio show afterward and had this detailed exchange:

Mark Levin: Bret Baier, how are you my friend?

Bret Baier: Hi Mark. There was a slight bit of frustration. I had so much to get to and I was hoping that it was going to be this civil back-and-forth, but you know, it was good for her to come on, and I think that she should do more of them. But I was just trying to get through the talking points and it took a while and it was a little bit of a — you know — interrupting and getting in on a breath.

ML: It was clear they had a strategy coming in there, which was when you ask a question to divert to something else, most time trashing Trump, giving little speeches, filibustering and so forth. They knew you only had a limited amount of time and they were hoping that that’s how they would play it. But you didn’t tolerate it. You weren’t angry, you weren’t rude. You were trying to get back in and you did. And In have to tell you. I watched some of the comments by some of the people on Fox and so forth. Some of them were dead wrong. I’m telling you. I’m not taking this as a partisan. I was watching this, trying to analyze it and talk to my audience, we have millions of people listening right now from coast to coast and I bet you that they agree with me. Not just because they’re conservatives and so forth. She did not come off well. Here’s an example, Bret.

What did you learn from her in the 25 minutes? You asked her about the border, you asked her about Iran, you asked her — you got the usual pablum and ‘I’m not finished’. That’s what I got out of her, that she was quite rude and that she had a strategy in place and she was gonna do it no matter what. I don’t view that as a successful interview from HER perspective.

BB: Which is why, Mark, I said at the end of the show, you go back and look at this transcript, there is some news in there. There is some news where she says ‘She’s gonna follow the law’. She’s not saying what position she took in 2019 and where she is now, she is ‘gonna follow the law’. She said that ‘Donald Trump did the same thing about transgender surgery in prison inmates and illegal aliens, which is not true, the Trump prison system had this policy — he never advocated for it and transition or transgender surgery never happened in his Presidency. And she said you have to own what happens in your presidency.

Well THAT was after talking about the border and trying to get her to own the change to Remain in Mexico policy in the early days of the administration.

ML: But you know what? The thing is this. She was never going to allow this to be just a regular interview where you ask questions and she answers the questions directly. She had an agenda. She had no intention. You asked her how many illegal aliens came in. You should have that off the top of your head. People talk about it all the time. As you pointed out, her own administration has put numbers out. She doesn’t know.

She talks about Iran. You asked her about their actions toward Iran, and then she talks about how her supporting Israel. But you didn’t ask her that. You asked her about Iran. This went on and on and on. And I have to believe that people who aren’t sure what they want to do are saying, ‘wait a minute… she didn’t SAY anything! She didn’t answer anything. And she’s busy spending about 40% of the time attacking Donald Trump.

BB: Which, by the way Mark, I was really surprised. After having two bites at the apple about what’s going to be different in a Harris administration from a Biden administration, from The View, from Stephen Colbert, and then from me, she did not have any specifics. She kept on saying we need to turn the page. And I said ‘turn the page from WHAT? You’ve been Vice President for 3 1/2 years. And she said from Donald Trump. You know what I’m talking about. And I finally said, Madame Vice President, I DON’T know what you’re talking about. You’ve been in office for 3 1/2 years.

ML: That was a great point. No we don’t know what you’re talking about. I want to say this to you also. You’re gonna get a lot of incoming from the usual —

BB: 100%

ML: And — 100% — I want you to know, seriously. Not just because I’m your friend. But this was a very important interview. Not because she revealed so much information, but she revealed herself even more. And I think this is why they try to keep her under cover. Unless she’s attacking Trump, unless she can go off-topic, unless she can minimize the amount of time that she’s actually questioned, limit the number of questions, unless she can get her rehearsed lines out, she really doesn’t know what to say. I mean, honestly Bret, if I were there and you were asking me questions, I could *boom, boom, boom*… she doesn’t do that.

BB: I think that they prepared for this like a debate, and they wanted a ‘moment’ and, you know, they wanted a ‘viral moment’, they wanted a moment they could play on MSNBC which WILL play, when she’s going after Donald Trump and getting angry, I think that was the moment they practiced for. She was off the trail yesterday and I think they probably had some time. You know they originally said twenty five to thirty minutes. We got there, they said twenty minutes.

And then WE said, we had to start — they gave us this time where we do the taping at 5:00 which is the weird thing… I mean, I was gonna do it live, but I decided we were going to do it ‘as live’ tape and then just turn around the tape. But in order to DO that, we had to be starting by 5:15 just for our machines to be able to turn it around by the 6 pm. They were supposed to start at 5:00. She walked in at 5:16 and, you know, all my people and producers are sweating — can we technically turn it around — so that was all part of ‘icing the kicker’ and kinda delaying. That’s a little behind the scenes.

ML: Bret Baier, I’d like to hold you over. I won’t keep you much longer but I have a couple of quick questions and points to make if you don’t mind. We’ll be quick, hang with me. Bret Baier, who did a fantastic job in very hostile circumstances and I think he’s right — she came in there like it was going to be a debate and she really was going on offense. And she really wasn’t going to allow things to happen, but Bret still got in there.

[Break for commercial]

ML: We’re here with Bret Baier who just finished interviewing Kamala Harris. Let’s step back a second, Bret. Is this not the weirdest election in your lifetime? I mean, you’re talking to somebody who never received a vote for the Presidential nomination, she’s hiding out for two months, and all of a sudden she wants to get out there. She goes to Howard Stern and all of her — she thinks her favorite haunts — then you decide to do one interview on Fox with Bret Baier and they’re playing these games, 5:16 and 20 minutes, not 25 – 30 minutes. You probably were getting a sense right away, ‘boy this is pretty hostile’. I mean, and she had an opportunity to sit there for 30 minutes and answer your questions. But she didn’t do it.

BB: I really was — there were two ways it could have gone, Mark. I was hoping it was gonna go the way that I envisioned, which was more kind of like a conversation about topics. We could say you have differences, this is where I am. I would press, but in a respectful way, and I’ve done many of those interviews where it’s really fruitful to have a back-and-forth. And you get someplace and you actually learn something about policy and where they are.

Then I thought, it could be the other way. You know? It could be meant for a viral moment and essentially, it’s a practice for a debate and, you know, so I need to be able to get my questions as much as I can in a respectful but tough way and hope that she comes back when she’s in a different talkative mood and we learn more.

I think, you know I’m offering both sides all of this and that work’s been awesome. They took all the commercial breaks out of the first half of the show and that’s an effort so that people can learn stuff. And I just feel like we didn’t learn a ton from this back-and-forth.

ML: But she didn’t WANT you to learn anything. That’s the reason. That’s why she was hiding out for 2 months. That’s why she only goes — pretty much — to people she knows who’ve openly endorsed her. You’re a journalist. You’re one of the few journalists left. You and Martha and a few others and so forth.

And you’re there and I’ve SEEN you interview Democrats — tough on them but respectful — Republicans tough on them and respectful. She was not going to allow you do to the kind of interview a journalist would do. She wanted to control it. She wanted to filibuster. She wanted to attack Donald Trump. I don’t think she really got out of this what she wanted to get out of it, because you wouldn’t allow it, on the other hand, I don’t think she persuaded a single voter — a single voter — that she’s the one to support. I really don’t I mean, based on what? I didn’t see anything.

Now her base might get excited, which includes some of the media, MSNBC and so forth, but that’s about it. What do you think?

BB: I think so. I think the left will be fired up that she was a tough Commander-in-Chief and she stuck it to Fox News, and I think that’s what they’ll say, but I do think that there were some vulnerabilities in there.

The answers on immigration were really thin. They were only a couple of inches deep. And trying to get to the decisions, you could have said, Mark, “looking back, I think we should have, I think we should have left ‘Remain in Mexico’” Imagine that moment. Or how about ‘turn the page’. “You know what? There are some things I think I would do differently. I probably would have done Afghanistan differently. You know, even though I was the last person in the room, there are some differences.” But she does not want to say that.

And then, she says that, you know, she never saw any problems with Joe Biden. You know, mentally, while she’s…

ML: That was a big point, you’re right. Go ahead, I’m sorry.

BB: Yeah. My follow-up, you couldn’t really hear because she was talking, was George Clooney spent 10 minutes with him at a Hollywood fundraiser and determined this was not the same Joe Biden. This was the Joe Biden we saw on the debate stage. I said, you’ve spent at least once, if not more, times with him a week for three and a half years. You didn’t notice… anything?

ML: Because she didn’t want to answer the question. She doesn’t have a good answer. What is she gonna say? Seriously. On the border. By the way, you hit her there. You said six Senate Democrats voted against this bill. She’s gotten away with this for 2 1/2 months. “Oh the Republicans killed it because Trump told them to ki–” Excuse me! Six Democrats voted against this bill. You’re really the first news person to mention that and I know, I’m sure you wanted to mention more but you couldn’t.

So you’re sitting there and in the moment while this is going on are you kinda having an ‘out of body’ experience like ‘geez, I really don’t want it to go this way, but on the other hand I mean I gotta stay in here despite the fact that she’s hitting a little bit below the belt’

BB: You know, I had echoes of my interview with President Obama right before Obamacare, the vote in the House. It was 2010, I was in the White House and they’d said you get 30 minutes. You get there and you get 20 minutes. You know, it’s the same folks, I think, maybe, advising. And there’s a guy, a staff guy with a cellphone that’s ticking back from 20 minutes. And I asked the first question to President Obama and it goes 3 minutes. And then I ask the second question, it goes 3 1/2 minutes. And the clock is ticking backwards. And finally, you DO have an out-of-body experience and you say, either I have to jump in and appear rude, or we’re gonna get rolled here. And I think that’s the same feeling I had here.

I wish I didn’t talk over her, I wish we could have just stopped. But she wanted to keep going. But I’m happy she came on Mark, and listen. I think that’s a breakthrough. And hopefully she’ll come back or some people will come back and we’ll continue to have a discussion.

ML: Well if you didn’t at least try to interrupt to get her to refocus on issues that were raised, like she said nothing about the economy when you asked her about the economy, she said nothing about Iran, it was all about protecting Israel, which they haven’t done in my humble opinion. But she kept moving it that way. I will say this — if you hadn’t at least tried to get back in and explain different points and so forth in terms of your question, you would have had 3 questions and then out. In other words, it would have been over. And I think you would have felt horrendous about it. You would have said ‘OMG I should have been a little bit more forceful I should have gotten in there more, I should have questioned more. You really hadn’t a choice. They left you no choice.

BB: When I left, Mark, I felt horrible. I had this feeling like ‘Oh my gosh, did I… what did I leave on the table’ But actually, when I watched it, I think there were some fruitful things that came out of that and you’re gonna look back and there’s some news-y moments.

ML: Well, we’re very proud of you here. I thought you really tried to do your best and you did very very good job under those circumstances. They were trying to, really, I think, sabotage the interview and use it as an opportunity to, you know, to advance her general statements, you know, that we’ve all heard and to use the rest of the time to trash Trump. You didn’t let her do it. You were pushing back on questions. But you know what? Here’s the deal, you’re a journalist. The American people can see this now and make up their own minds if they were impressed with her or if they were not. \

You’re not running for office. She is. She needs their votes. You don’t need anybody’s votes. Anyway God bless you my friend and congratulations from my perspective.

BB: Thanks Mark. Appreciate it. Talk to you soon.

Cross-posted with Clash Daily

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